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Beverly posting labs

Discussion in 'Optimal Labs' started by Beverly, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Hi Dr K and members. I have asked a few questions recently on Dr K's not so hard truth about hair loss article in the comments. I tried to post my lab results before but to no avail. Hopefully I figured it out.
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2013
  2. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Updating today
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2013
  3. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Updating here too
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2013
  4. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Since I am not getting a response should I assume I have posted my labs in the wrong place? If so I would really appreciate it if someone could let me know where to move this to. Thanks so much.
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2013
  5. nicld

    nicld Gold

    I posted mine too and don't get much of a response. I am still trying to dig through them all and see what is really off and how I can fix it and if I think my GP can help with it or if I need to see a specialist. Looks like I will be doing alot of reading this weekend.

    Good Luck
  6. fitness@home

    fitness@home Silver

    I've read both of your posts...just don't have enough knowledge to comment.

    There are others here that have far more understanding when interpreting labs. Hopefully you'll get a response soon.
  7. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Thanks nicld. Unfortunately my dr said my labs were normal. I wish you the best of luck in your research. I do a lot of it too.

  8. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Thanks for your reply fitness@home. Yes hopefully someone will come along that can shed some light on things a bit better for me.
  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    All above is low.
    There are preliminary suggestions there, but for now you may want to wait with any supplementation until we get test results.

    I suggest

    look at my posts on this thread:


    Do Spectracell test
    Do Essential & Metabolic Fatty Acids Analysis (EMFA)
    Likely it it quicker and less hassle and expense if you just buy those tests on your own.

    It may help if you could also do the LabCorp list of tests.
    items (1, 4-19)
    do blood draw on day 2-4 of your menstrual cycle
    first blood draw at (7:30AM)
    lab opens at 7AM, come there at 6:15AM, fasting from 7PM day before, drink 12-16oz water at 6AM

    When you get results, please do not type them.
    Get scanner, scan each page, post it here.

    Do not eat fish or krill oil.
    Eat lots of
    (oysters, clams, crabs, scallops, lobsters) 50%
    (herring, mackerel, sardine, salmon, anchovie) 25% (if canned, only in water or olive oil)
    (beef, bacon, eggs) 25%

    BodyBio PC (Phosphatidylcholine)
    300 SoftGels (900mg)

    Doctor's Best Natural Brain Enhancers Featuring GPC & PS

    Citocoline CDP Choline Jarrow

    eat, CT, sleep and watch your circadian Rhythm per dr Kruse

    Stay on this thread (where I can find you).

  10. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Thanks for your help, You have given me a lot to work on and I appreciate your help.
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2013
  11. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I just touched on proteins, when in doubt follow (Epi-Paleo-Rx) by dr Kruse

    Neutrophils also calls for examination of fatty acids.

    You have so many items calling for fatty acids and phospholipids that I think it may be a good idea to check for Lyme.
    Ask your doc for that check.

    Just in case keep this:

    Dr Burrascano's Lyme treatment guidelines

    Dr. Burrascano's Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease
    http://researchednutritionals.com/F...Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease _12_17_08.pdf


    Summary of ILADS Guidelines for Lyme Disease

    Checking for Lyme do first.
    If it would come positive
    (start treatment first with your local doc)
    ask him to refer you to local Infectious disease specialist
    Essential & Metabolic Fatty Acids Analysis (EMFA)
    go directly for best test of this type:
    Red Blood Cell Fatty Acid test from Kennedy Krieger Laboratory

    to arrange for that tests call number underlined in red, below:
    You may actually let them handle your case going forward or at least the Fatty Acids/phospholipids part.

    Last edited: Jul 26, 2013
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Get good chiropractor and let him work on you few times before passing judgement.
    Pick the one who cares for local sports teams or is popular among bodybuilders,
    and work with his hands only.

    Stay away from guys with big shiny offices, assistants and lots of equipment.
    Let him know about: c6/c7

    You will need to make x-ray of your whole spine (get good instructions about what he needs to see, so you can explain what you want, to x-ray technician)

    Last edited: Jul 26, 2013
  13. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Thanks so much Jansz,

    Thank you so much for all the testing info and supplement suggestions. Very helpful! I will ask for the lyme test when I go back to my gp. I will also look further into my tests and as soon as my gluten challenge is done I will start epi paleo. I do already have a great chiropractor so that's a start. Have a great day!
  14. gsteppe14@gmail.com

    gsteppe14@gmail.com New Member

    I agree with JanSz. They don't jump out at you but when you look at the pattern, they're all low-normal. Not enough to concern a busy physician but if you're a health gumshoe with time to burn like us ... and we all are in this forum! ... then they're vital clues. I think it may have to do with the positive ANA susceptible for Scleroderma. The other antibody test excluded Sjogren's, Sjogren's-come-lupus, and RA to some degree. Why did your doc test you for these antibodies anyway?

    Is your esophagus dry? Is the inside of your mouth also dry? How about your eyes? Do you have joint-related symptoms aside from the lone finger? Muscle carmps? Chronic fatigue? Did you ever find out the reasons behind your miscarriages? Were you ever tested for antiphospholipids?

    You might as well get some of the other antibodies excluded. Your ENA excluded some but not all. The most important of which is Anti DS-DNA, B Centromere, HLA-B 27 and thyroid antibodies, TSI, TPO/TG. You definitely need to get the DS DNA tested to exclude SLE, especially if you had anti-phospholipids and miscarriages in late trimesters. You're very midly anemic but this could also be due to autoimmunity (rule out w DS DNA). The other clue is your lowish WBC and non-lymphs, also autoimmune signatures.

    Whys is your creatinine so low? Did you drink too much water before testing? Where is your BUN? You seem to be ketogenic so that should be high.

    Last edited: Aug 20, 2013
  15. gsteppe14@gmail.com

    gsteppe14@gmail.com New Member

    Your cholesterol is a non-issue when you don't know the components. Your very low trigs suggest you're ketogenic. That's all I can say. Your Neuts are also a non-issue since it's based on your low-normal total WBCs. Your lymph % is high so one of your non-lymphs is bound to be low. Your non-lymphs are 4.2-2.2 = 2.0. As you go below 2.0, you become more susceptible to infection. Not too low now but I'd keep an eye on your total WBCs for now.

  16. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    Thanks for having a look at my labs.

    Last edited: Oct 11, 2013
  17. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Not even close to normal........
  18. Beverly

    Beverly New Member

    That's what I thought.

    Last edited: Oct 11, 2013
  19. gsteppe14@gmail.com

    gsteppe14@gmail.com New Member

    You're ANA positive and the ENA test excluded your seropositivity for Sm, SS-A, SS-B, Scl-70, Jo-1 and RNP. That's a select few and those are mostly Sjogren's,Lupus and some other antibodies. But that's not all such antibodies. I keep saying you need the DS DNA and antiphospho because they could be related to pregnancy complications. There are countless antibodies. Just because you're negative doesn't mean you don't have the disease. Especially if you have symptoms, you are probably in the process of becoming seropositive, especially for Sjogren's, whose symptoms you seem to have. Whoever tested you and said you don't have autoimmunity is an idiot. You may not have systemic scleroderma, but you could have Crest. You're seronegative for RA based on CCP, but you could be positive based on RA Factor and symptoms, which also was not tested. Unless you go to a knowledgeable rheumy, you'll be chasing your tail like this. Autoimmune patients with connective tissue issues get tested every 3 months to see what else becomes positive. They piggyback one after another. It's not like you test once and it's all clear. Go see a rheumy. Tell her your symptoms. Tell her you need the remaining antibody tests to rule out SLE, RA and other issues. Funny you mention C6/C7. You need C3/C4. See how low they are. I bet they're below or at the low end of the reference range. Also need to test TPO/TG/TSI, as they overlap frequently with ANA. At this point, I think you need a rheumy more than a neuro. What you need are more antibody tests, not MRI.

    Last edited: Aug 22, 2013
  20. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    my next few blogs will answer this directly..........make sure you dissect what I am saying..........and autoimmune disease is a big sign your environment has way too much EMF.

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