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Aussies and the donut hole!

Discussion in 'The Cave' started by caroline, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    Yes, but this is after that period in my life... The irony is that when i let go of that life, luxury came to me in other ways, including that wine and cognaq... I would never enjoy the tastes before as much as the feeling of the act of buying, a perverted mind for sure... The weird thing is that after we drank the congnaq she told me the price, $4340 / bottle. She have some connection to the family behind Hine so it is ok to enjoy that one...
  2. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    So - when you were making big money and enjoying the good life - it was all about being ale to acquire stuff...no relevance to a real and honest way of being.....

    I have to think about this more......But some things are exquisite - like a bottle of Chateaux Margaux or a fine brandy or a lovely meal with a loved one. But simplicity is wonderful too. It doesn't have to be expensive to be exquisite either...

    If you have worked really hard all your life with honestly and integrity and you can afford these amazing pleasures .....just for the sheer joy of what this world has to offer......

    I have tasted Chateau Margaux - and to be honest - I don't remember it really ...but we had a lot of amazing things that nite. One of my favorite memories is dinner at K Paul's in NOLA. I loved the cajun martinis and I got a star on my forehead! I guess you could say that it doesn't take much to make me happy - but I was with the one I loved....
  3. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    Many times things goes overhead and end up in weird situations, not really the things i wanted so i got out of it in time. When you are in that flow you think most of the time that it is honest. Today many of my friends have gotten a taste of it and they are craving it big time... Same with technology, homes and other things like the obsession with our bodies. Just look at the amount of books about cooking, diets and enlightment, reminds me of the peak of porno in the end of 90´s.

    You are right and these things we should treat with respect. Take that bottle of wine for example, made by nature and composed by human, a craftmanship, a dedication and passion. When we drink that fluid it is history that goes into us. When we live simple we give pure art, luxury and other things that the other around us calls snobbery the right attention. We also salutes the ones that create it.

    Life is exquisite, not something that we should treat like dirt...

    In this country we had a famous drug addict that nailed it:

    "When someones is so deep down as i have been you stand with one foot in the past, the other in the future and you take a piss on the now"
    - Kenta
  4. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I love how you put that Peter......enjoying a fine bottle of wine - or whatever it may be - and giving it the proper attention and honouring how it was created and who created it ...not for the sake of snobbery or to show we indeed have the bank account that allows us to purchase something that someone else can't.

    I have always loved beautiful things my whole life.. to be able to look at it or touch it or smell it or taste it - but it has always only been for me. I used to love to buy something lovely for my DH. He never had any interest what so ever in "things" but would cherish something I gave him that would bring tears to my eyes.
  5. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Well you donut hole reality is now live
  6. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I think it would be so much better if you came to Oz and delivered the blog in person..... We could be your very own captive audience and we would feed you oysters.....
  7. Determined

    Determined New Member

    Our brains are swelling - trying to make new pathways for that one!
  8. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I am sitting at the beach topless trying to get into it....... So many distractions.....
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013
  9. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    it is simple.......if your in Oz you better make sure your water supply is not from Oz.
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  10. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    if it is not you likely wont get cancer or an AI.........
  11. yewwei.tan

    yewwei.tan Gold

    Is RO water made from standard bulk water in Australia a solution?

    Just got through the blog post, and there goes my idea of trying to use filtered rainwater as a fluoride-free water source. Obviously lots more to worry about regarding water quality.
  12. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    all the fresh water falls on Oz from the atmosphere.......I just showed you in the blog where that water comes from.........You think any of that water is good after reading that blog? If you do......then you better re read it about 100 times. It should be crystal clear.
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  13. Determined

    Determined New Member

    NZ? Does it have a donut hole?
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013
  14. Determined

    Determined New Member

    What should we drink then? moving to NZ? And I was feeling so much better w it all. Any answers Jack - what other suggestions will support us here - other than lots of seafood (increasingly expensive & in ever dwindling supply), a magnetico & CT . Anything else we shld be doing or drinking other than moving to NZ - as beautiful as it is!
  15. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Topless...??? You are doing progress! Soon you will swim naked :D

    I wonder what distractions...? ;)

    Now I need to go and read the new blog.. so exited!
  16. Inger

    Inger Silver

    Uh. Now I am worried too. I just started drinking rainwater only... but now I am not so sure. The rain comes in from the Atlantic. Me thinks.
  17. yewwei.tan

    yewwei.tan Gold

    If I'm understanding the blog correctly, the major effect of the donut hole on water in Australia is that CFCs in the atmosphere get liberated as halide anions, and those ions end up in the rainwater that falls on Australia. This makes all rainwater essentially tainted by these dielectric blockers.

    Wouldn't passing that water through a process that removes the halides counteract the negative effects of drinking that water?

    If so, then at least having a good RO filter pump would allow for good water. As a temporary measure, I'm relying on water from Nobles Pureau, which does go through a RO process -- http://www.noblebeverages.com/why-pureau/the-pureau-process/

    The potential negative effects of the donut definitely extend far beyond water for consumption, but at least we're getting one step closer to optimal :). I still need to think about the potential measure for dealing with those direct gamma rays though ...
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013
  18. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    There is really no good way to remove halides in water well......the best way is to desalinate sea water to RO water. It cuts all the issues of the water cycle in the donut hole out of it.........and as for NZ: they are not much better off because their water supplies come mostly from the same sources as Oz. Its best to get your water from somewhere else. I think in Oz of NZ the best bet today is import it.
  19. ATL_Paleo

    ATL_Paleo Gold

    IIRC, your not a big fan of iodine supplementation. But .... if your water is not great, wouldn't Lugol's at a dose of 50mg / day (titrated up and based on n=1) be a good alternative?

    Given iodine's location on the periodic chart, this seems to make a lot of sense to offset the affect of the other halides (chlorine, bromine & flouride).
  20. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Atl here is the rub...............I have a huge issue with Morley Robbins the magnesium man about this very same issue...............Mg and I require good water to work their magic............if water is not right neither ion will give their maximum benefit. Anyone making claims about ions benefits without understanding the true biologic context is making the same error as someone writting a Rx for statins for heart disease. Context is huge for health and sickness. All decesions in the Quilt come down to maximizing these three laws of nature..............every last one. And while the 3 laws are known and fundamental, the application of their actions is the furthest thing from any one in paleo or medicine. That is the real issue.............for us all.
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