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Are you implementing any of Dr. Kruse's ideas with your kids?

Discussion in 'Optimal Kids' started by trishalinn@gmail.com, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. I have a 5 yr old, We've been paleo/primal for about 9 months for the whole fam. The hardest part is my fear of creating some kind of eating disorder by denying him - but I generally power through and stand firm. He can now give good explinations on why he doesn't eat wheat. We limit going out now - mostly because the oils and poor quality meats. Fortunately in Boulder area there are restaurants with grass fed, grain free options that are delish. Now if more would become aware of the oil's, that would rock.



    I will say it's been an imperfect journey. Around xmas with family around, we made decoratin cookies and ate out with friends while shopping. I had a few diet cokes (harder to kick than anything imho). BUT, we got right back on that wagon - and it's been pretty smooth ever since.



    His bday is coming up and he wants treats. As he's a primal boy with plenty of outdoor time and family love - he's a darn smarty pants and there is no tricking with substitutions anymore.



    Our method has been to simply tell him the reasons. "we didn't know this, we know this now - and exlain over and over what "this" is till he has a real understanding of it.".



    The hardest part for ME with him is time management for cooking for the family, making a paleo lunch and now finding time for CT! We may have to move to an actual cave soon, it seems there simply are not enough hours in the day (when you sleep 9 of em ;).
     
  2. zzzcjr@comcast.net

    zzzcjr@comcast.net New Member

    I hope it's not too late for 'not making a big deal' of it. Nothing has really been forced on them, just LOTS of comments made about what I've read on Jack's blog. 15yo is very pliable, 19yo is not. Both are understandably skeptical of my opinions regarding food since I've strongly advised them in the past to do the opposite of what I'm saying now -- always with 'good' reasons.

    They're avid basketball players and regularly lift weights so I'm hoping to eventually get them to understand what Jack is saying about CT and HIIT.

    I've done as cavemam said--that we know things we didn't know before. They respond that I said that the last time.



    Seeing your advice to alter their options made me realize I haven't been doing that as much as I thought, so that's my next move. Thanks!



    I assume your kids are cold adapted. If so, how did you go about doing that?
     
  3. MistyStone

    MistyStone New Member

    All depends on the kid....I have a 12 and 9 year old that are all in but my 16 year old is still not sure. My 18yr old is taking it slow but making progress. I started them all out with damp towels that I would freeze. Use all sizes for any part of the body. My daughter is now growing out of the towels because she is adapting and its not cold to her anymore. I have graduated her up to ice bags but we arent going in the ice bath for a few weeks from now... Its all a slow process with kids, just remember not to give up on them and it gets easier. All mine are athletes so it only took a short time for them to see a chance in themselves and they were hooked:eek:
     
  4. fabbecky

    fabbecky New Member

    I foolishly told my 4yr old that cold baths would make him sick about 4 months ago. He now refuses to let the water get too cold. I need to fix this ASAP!
     
  5. MJ*

    MJ* New Member

    Misty thanks I really appreciate hearing what you are doing, since you are further down the road with this. What are your children eating, are they strictly Paleo, what do they do when they go out with friends. My 17 year old told me, because they are all driving, that it would be impossible to change his diet - it's such a social thing at that age. My 15 year old is a die hard athlete and wants to play D1 in college, from a performance standpoint I've gotten her ear, but to me it's really about getting them healthy. How do you help them balance their food and social situations as teens?
     
  6. MJ*

    MJ* New Member

    It's ok for moms to admit that they were wrong, or that they learned something new. I was a kindergarten teacher for a number of years, and I can tell you 4 year olds usually respond to honesty. Deliver the news in an exciting way, and it should be just fine...
     
  7. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    I have a better way.......dont give them an option. Evolution does not and neither should we. That is how it is my house. Simple. You dont like it there is a tent on the lawn......and a bucket to crap in. Enjoy. Yes, my house is Spartan.



    Misty is being nice to y'all. She knows how I roll.......and she does the same.
     
  8. Souldanzer

    Souldanzer Banned


    that sure would give them optimal light and seasonal cycles, CT included and mission accomplished LOL
     
  9. RiverNeighbor

    RiverNeighbor New Member

    My kiddos are currently taking an intense nap after playing out in the sunshine and getting sprayed by cold garden hose water. Guess that is CT for 3 year olds! I didn't plan it, but they wanted to get sprayed. Guess I should be letting them spray me too!!!



    They eat a paleo/primal diet but I haven't moved them fully to a seasonal primal/paleo. Both of the kids have significantly lower weight percentiles compared to height so I am mostly worried about getting my health fixed and then I can fine tune what is going on with them. Since I stay home with them it is easy to only offer the best things.
     
  10. Casey

    Casey New Member


    I agree with MJ, admit you were wrong. My 3.5 yr old cant handle the cold water at this stage. He tried it, by coming in with me but became very stressed. I've been slowly decreasing the temp of his bath. My 7 month old on the other hand will happily sit on my lap (so far just cold from tap, no ice).
     
  11. Casey

    Casey New Member


    Play + cold water is awesome! When I had my first CT bath it brought back fun memories of swimming and playing in cold water. I was splashing around, singing and laughing, basically mucking around like a kid. it was exhilarating! And very amusing. For my toddler who wanted to come in and join in the fun! ..... I mentioned earlier that he can't tolerate the bath too cold at the moment, but he'll get there! And he wants to because he sees how much fun Mama is having!



    Sounds like you've got a good plan in place with their diet and healing yourself before getting too strict (you'll need your energy). All the best!
     
  12. My 7 year old and I played in our 56 degree michigan pool today for an hour and a half! Yesterday the pool was at 54 and we spent an hour in there. I guess we're doing pretty good at getting our CT. My 3 year old wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with the pool though. He freaked out if he even got splashed a little bit.
     
  13. MJ*

    MJ* New Member

    Really??? I think maybe you are more of a softy than you let on here...you said your son asked you to do this, he came around on his own ;)
     
  14. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    My son jumped in by himself. He asked me if he could do it based upon my results......and I let him. The daughter was hindered by what mom did not want to do......but once she adapted everything changed.
     
  15. MamaGrok

    MamaGrok New Member




    IMO, FWIW, eating disorders are *not* caused by forbidden fruit syndrome. No way. They're biochemical. The best way to cause one is to feed a child SAD. Heck, my parents never were restrictive about food, nor did they feed us junk, but I developed an ED, even with no emotional trauma, no high stress situation, no low self-esteem, no body image problems, NONE of the usual suspects.



    MistyStone;3951 wrote:
    All depends on the kid....I have a 12 and 9 year old that are all in but my 16 year old is still not sure. My 18yr old is taking it slow but making progress. I started them all out with damp towels that I would freeze. Use all sizes for any part of the body. My daughter is now growing out of the towels because she is adapting and its not cold to her anymore. I have graduated her up to ice bags but we arent going in the ice bath for a few weeks from now... Its all a slow process with kids, just remember not to give up on them and it gets easier. All mine are athletes so it only took a short time for them to see a chance in themselves and they were hooked:eek:


    How did you get them to start the cold? What did you say?




    I'm so all over that outlook. Hey, I provide the house/food/clothes/toys/entertainment ... much more than I'm obligated to. You don't like my rules, I can provide the bare minimum; there's the shed.
     
  16. MJ*

    MJ* New Member

    Having both parents on board would help a lot, last night my husband said there is no way he's ever getting in ice...I just quietly say to myself, we'll see about that :D...
     
  17. MJ*

    MJ* New Member

    My daughter is a beast on the soccer field and is taking to CT like a fish to water, and she is improving her diet but is not there, that will be much harder than the CT for her (lunch is the hardest by far and social settings as a teen), but I feel that any improvement steps her in the right direction and puts her way ahead of most people, and the more she learns the more she will want to do what's right for her health...so for the CT she started with a couple of face dunks and we tried the frozen towels but we probably didn't do it right because it was all balled up and hard to put on her body, a face cloth was easier to keep flat in the freezer, but didn't stay cold long at all. She did a couple of weeks of cold showers and has done three baths no more than 10 - 15 minutes, with three small ice blocks that she moved around her skin. Last night at practice it was a little cold out, and the team was all in sweats, and she had shorts on and they were all like are you crazy? She was like a little surprised herself, "mom :eek: I was not cold at all!" I'm hoping this will help motivate her to consider her food even more...



    She said her face is feeling more oily since starting this, is that a legit happening? She also had one day where she said she felt full of rage, is that normal?
     

  18. Thanks so much for weighing in with your experiences! I also homeschool, and it does make a lot of things easier - not having to deal with lunch at school and treats and junk that people bring into school.



    I don't even keep any junk in the house anymore, so we've been making good progress. The special occasions are really where it's going to be hard for us. This week we had my nieces birthday party at a local pizza joint. My husband and I had chef salads (only thing there we could eat) and the kids had pizza and cake. I know I should cut that out too. Are there certain tests you would recommend for gluten intolerance?
     
  19. I've not started CT with my 5 yr old, but I have changed the family lifestyle as far as eating paleo, no tv/computers after dark, get your bootie outside and play, and stoping the "get a coat, wear a hat, put on your shoes before going outside" stuff.



    I feel I'm at the beginning of this CT journey, and I've spent my entire life trying different and current health fads (fat makes you fat, low cal shakes, crazy athletic training, atkins, primal will solve it all (it didn't) and the like), so I'm just not there on making my son CT, until it's actually worked for me.



    Also, I figure he's not really broken like me - so for me this is THERAPY to repair, with him if I incorporate what we know - perhaps he just won't be so mismatched.
     
  20. MJ*

    MJ* New Member

    I think that's a smart approach...and CT is something you can always add...with teens that's the easy part, food is the hard part...if you can conquer the food issues for your kids then you are in great shape as a parent, they can elect to do CT when they get older and want to do it...
     

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