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Discussion in 'Mitochondrial Rx' started by NADme, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    The amount of muscle wasting took me months to gain back, at least a half year if I recall correctly.
    You do not want lots of muscles.

    Excess of D promotes growth ("good" growth and bad growth).

    You want fat. Brown fat.

  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Why he have this nick name?
    I have newer seem him discussing matrix as it is done here or any other way.
    But I have heard Patricia Kane's name first from him.
    Also Spectracell I got from him.
    He was a pain in John C's behind but my first learning was from dr J and HAN.
    The Matrix

  3. NADme

    NADme New Member

    I supplement, and I know that is a bad word in here, with A and D in an emulsified form from biotics research.

    Also, it was not about building muscle, as in body building, I agree, lean, spartan, flexible, agile, adaptable bodies for the win. however i am talking about wasting that looked like aids. I had no quads, flap and bone. It took the better part of the year to recover.

    As you know I research and question, when I do pull the trigger I am all in.

    You have witnessed at least 2-3 outlier events with me. I will absorb all of Jacks Rx postings and put them into play and document. Again, addressing only a segment and not assisting outliers tells me lots about the person. Anyone can grab low hanging fruit.
  4. NADme

    NADme New Member

    Kane damaged HANS. Look at her Janz does her personal self speak the truth that resonates?

    Paul Anderson is the good go to without exception without a doubt. Paul and Ben Lynch contribute and seek to assist. Ben's B12 adeno/hydrox combo is the only form that has the option given to those with methyl blocks and my labs support it over and over.

    This industry is riddle with charlatans. They carve out their niche and bang the drum. It reminds me of another J. Lennon quote, life happens while people are busy making plans.

    I sincerely appreciate Jack, but he is dodging me. He wants to push 5G, great. Another green monster. How about the combo with arial assaults in the form of chemming. how about a rapid heavy metal detox that will not jeopardize the kidneys?

    What is his opinion on Dr. Haley and ROS1/NMBI? Even Shade is nudged up to Haley and Chris has an ego the size of a house. So what gives, for if the basics of ridding that which tinuates and amplifies internally is not addressed then ALL ELSE THAT FOLLOWS IS JUST MORE CHASING FEATHERS IN THE WIND.....however it is a great revenue stream!
  5. NADme

    NADme New Member

    Shawn is doing great. HANS is a legacy name from body building days. He and his APRN wife have a great future and they are sincere. They are opening a clinic outside of Philly.
  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    HAN have insane amounts of muscles and very low cholesterol.
    IIRC his Circadian rhythm is upside down.
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2018
  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    You maybe asking Jack for something that hi is not willing to give or not willing to give it to you today.
    How about if you give a good try per his rules, then give it a year to see how it works for you.
    Unless you have a better option.

    Speaking of Patricia Kane
    when I started asking questions about fatty acids, Jack referred me to her.
    So she is on the + side in Jack's book.
    I still do not have a good answer to my question that is by now 5+ years old.
    Wonder if you would give it your shot at it.

  8. Penny

    Penny New Member

    Dude - you need to read about vitamin c being obtained from lemons vs ascorbic acid - read it from the horse's mouth - Albert Senzt Giorgi - also, this whole party is to deplete deuterium - once you start doing that (and that requires mitophagy) everything starts to work better - late night latte? Have you not heard of the circadean clock? And honey is a deuterium bomb - i.e. it slows down the transport chain -

    Jack wants us to read his blogs where all this stuff is discussed ad nauseum - this is a great talk: mitochondrial heteroplasmy

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  9. Penny

    Penny New Member

  10. NADme

    NADme New Member

    the synthetic vit c ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate only have three of the six or eight rings, i think eight. I use ascerola cherry aka barbados cherry. 10 times more vit c, bio-available and has all of the rings expressing........jack wants back to nature there is an example.
  11. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Penny did Jack say that is that what you heard? Because the Vermont talk of 2018 and the podcast released today just undressed you. It tells me you are not reading or paying attention.
  12. NADme

    NADme New Member

    i am still here for a reason and I am willing to go all in and follow jack up the hill. all of what you have advocated from here i have readily available, sun, seafood, etc.
    i am reviewing all of his rx entries and will engage. I am a skeptic, even the simple thought of no supplements in a world of gmo, toxins and topsoils that have no logical replacement of nutrients challenges the very notion of no supplements. when my T tanks to 200 which it will and my IGF-1 goes to 90 and my world goes upside down then i will post what no supplements looks like. as afib increases and states of extremis mount.

    i simply do not believe that anything other than the main swath is effected by jacks protocols leaving the outlier to be doomed. however i am open to whatever it takes. i have just been up and down this mountain so many times, but maybe when i review his various rx's something will click.
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2018
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  13. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Is that better than eating a lemon or lime.
    I eat one daily.

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  14. NADme

    NADme New Member

    i have a very vivid imagination....penny for my thoughts! lol
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  15. NADme

    NADme New Member

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  16. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I you do not use it, drink Qlarivia.
    On this test are my results for 180 days on 105ppm
    105ppm would be 1 bottle of Qlarivia mixed with 2 bottles of plain water.
    After last test I changed to
    1 Qlarivia plus 1 plain water
    I say Qlarivia, but large part of that is Preventa-25
    since I stay in touch with
    Make sure also that you keep your
    homocysteine around 6
    With your Afib eat Bolouoke
    or earth worms


    in few weeks going to Myrtle Beach
    (hopefully my (by then born) newly minted grandson will not interfere)




    Last edited: Jul 10, 2018
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  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    This is more to @Jack Kruse that you @NADme
    dr Boros have made changes in testing
    that sort of screwed me up.
    The two old markers show progress
    the new marker shows setback.

    I would appreciate some comment or guess.

    Previously test consisted of testing
    breath condensate
    saliva or urine (no preference) (I have chosen urine)
    two separate tests but suggested always to be taken together

    Now there is one test, breath condensate and saliva.

    Additionally, new metric was added, DFactor
    They also (partly not completely) recalculated previous tests.
    On latest test (with new metric) I am making progress on first two tests,
    but I have a setback on the DFactor in the third test.

    What gives? Why setback.

    Actually, I got additional (vague) email
    asking if indeed what I send was saliva and not urine (as usual).
    (It beats me, why they asked. They wanted saliva and I have given it to them as requested.
    Previously they were giving me choice (saliva or urine).

    The saliva sample preparation is also changed, (I think).
    After I collect required amount of saliva, I let it settle for hours.
    Then I take only the liquid from middle of the tube.

    Last edited: Jul 11, 2018
  18. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @NADme Do not forget this tidbit:

    Forget about fluoride free toothpaste.
    Instead of toothbrush + toothpaste @Jack Kruse recommends
    paste made of baking soda + Hydrogen peroxide
    swished in the mouth

    Looks like a way to improve kidneys
    shift from inflammatory to an anti-inflammatory body profile
    But I do not remember @Jack Kruse calling it that way.



  19. Billybats

    Billybats New Member

    Hi @JanSz

    He says for two weeks to drink it but what is the amount of baking soda to water. Is there a certain time of the day to drink it and how many times a day.

    Thank you
  20. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Good question.
    Indeed about baking soda there are two takes, possibly more.

    1. instead of toothbrush + toothpaste (however good that toothpaste is)
    use baking soda + hydrogen peroxide mix (paste)
    swish in the mouth, spit it out
    (paste consistency gives you proportions of the mix)

    2. eat baking soda to improve on gut microbiome
    how much of baking soda is not defined. @Jack Kruse
    My guess:
    I know of baking soda being used to deal with hearth burn.
    Googled this advice:
    Baking soda, also known as sodium bicarbonate, is a natural antacid. If you dissolve a teaspoon of baking soda into 8 ounces of water and drink it, it can neutralize stomach acid and temporarily alleviate heartburn caused by acid reflux.

    I have mixed thoughts here.

    Heartburn happens because esophageal sphincter is not fully closed.
    Esophageal sphincter closes based on stomach acidity level.
    When there is not enough acidity, sphincter stays open.

    Heartburn happens because people with heartburn have not enough acidity for digestion
    enough to irritate esophagus.
    Taking baking soda neutralize the remaining stomach acid
    helps with heartburn but eliminates stomach from digestion process
    at the minimum
    the harmful bugs that otherwise would be killed by acid go thru.
    At one point in early 1970's I developed hiatal hernia, that comes with frequent heartburns.
    Eventually I got adjustable bed, and slept in inclined position.
    Latter I started eating betaine HCL with pepsin. That is stomach acid.
    Overall I have not had heartburn in number of years.

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