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Am I getting AM sunlight too late or not enough?

Discussion in 'Heal Your Hormones' started by Eliza, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Hi everyone

    My hormones have been trashed for years and I've been trying to heal them ever since. As of 5 months ago, I have moved to a rural area where I can work from home, allowing me to spend at least 1-2 hrs in AM sunlight per day and away from all the Wi-Fi in a high-rise office building. I know I need to get out more now we're coming out of winter in Australia.

    I see the sunrise every morning, and get 1-2 hrs sunlight between about 10am - 12pm (in Australia).

    I recently got some labs done on day 4 of my cycle, and really expected to see some improvements in my hormones, since I'm developing a nice tan. However, I was really wrong!!

    Is it nnemf, or am I not getting enough AM sunlight, or is the AM sunlight too late for hormone-making?

    Things that have changed for me lately:

    - I have had a faecal transplant about 2 yrs ago via a gastroenterologist in Melbourne. This has helped my gut health massively!
    - - We've gotten rid of wifi in the house, though we may get one weak signal from the neighbours occasionally.
    - The gym where I go to has an ice bath set at 14c, allowing me to CT most days for about 25 mins (sadly in nasty water, but I felt the benefits outweighed the negatives).
    - I have a core magnetico coming on Monday!
    - I'm doing the leptin reset again for about the last 3-4 months (salmon sashimi BAB - admittedly farmed), with butter mostly as the winter fat.

    hs-crp - 1.07 (ref: <4.91)
    Homocysteine: 7.7 umol/L (4-14)
    BUN: Creatinine ratio (25:1) - terrible!!
    Sodium, potassium, chloride, bicarb, anion gap, urea, creatinine, eGFR, urate, bilirubin, AST, ALT, GGT, Alkaline phosphatase, protein, albumin, globulin, calcium, corrected calcium and phosphate all within reference ranges.
    Serum iron: 15umol/L (10-30)
    Transferrin: 31 umol/L (32-48)
    Transferrin saturation - 25% (13-45)
    Serum ferritin - 163 ug/L (30-165)
    TSH: 2.7mIU/L (0.5-4.0)
    FT4: 16 pmol/L (10-20)
    FT3: 4.2 pmol/L (3.5-6) - unfortunately I didn't get RT3 tested - but I supplement 10mg T3 daily
    Day 4 hormone tests:
    FSH: 8 IU/L (2-12)
    E2: 199 (100-530)
    Progesterone: 1 (0.5-4.5) - despite 4% cream used on days 14-28 of my cycle
    Total T: 0.7 nmol/L (0.5-2.2)
    SHBG: 94nmol/L (20-118)
    DHEA-S: 1.9 umol/L (2.2-7.9) - yuck, despite daily supplementation of 20mg DHEA per day (didn't take it on morning tested).

    Calculated Free T: 5.8pmol/L (2.7-35)
    25-OH Vit D: 75 nmol/L (51-200) - bit more pleased about this, as we're in winter here, and I've brought it up from in winter with just sunlight
    Total Cholesterol: 13 mmol/L (3.6-5.2)
    Triglycerides: 0.9 mmol/L (0.5-1.7)
    HDL: 2.1 mmol/L (1-2)
    LDL: 10.2 mmol/L (1.5-3.4)
    Non-HDL cholesterol: 10.6 mmol/L )
    Cholesterol/HDL-C ratio: 6 (<4.5)

    Hb, platelets and WBC all within reference ranges
    HBA1C - NGSP 4.9% (4.0-6.0)
    HBA1C - IFCC - 30 mmol/mol (20-42)
    Vitamin B12:421 pmol/L (301-740)
    Serum folate: 46.4 nmol/L (>9)
    The thing is, prior to starting the leptin reset again, I had been eating mostly epi-paleo but moderate carbs, and my labs (especially hormones) still weren't impressive at all, but weren't as bad as what's above.
    For example, in August 2016, I had the following results: (Day 21 of cycle)
    FSH : 8 IU/L (2-23)
    Progesterone: 0.9 nmol/L (3.7-45)
    E2: 317 pmol/L (80-1150)
    Testosterone: 1.5 nmol/L (<4.6)
    SHBG: 130 nmol/L (20-155)
    calc. free T3: 10 pmol/L (3-37)
    FAI: 1.2 (0.5-6)
    DHEA-S: 9.1 umol/L (1.7-11.5)
    Cholesterol: 6.1 mmol/L (3.5-5.5)
    HDL: 1.7 mmol/L (>0.8)
    LDL: 4 mmol/L ( <2)
    Trigs: 0.83 mmol/L (0.5-2)
    Tot/HDL 3.6 mmol/L (<5.1)
    HS-CRP: 0.6 mg/L (0-5)
    Free T4: 11 pmol/L (8.2-22)
    TSH: 0.67 mU/L (0.5-4.4)
    Free T3: 4.9 pmol/L (2-7)

    My LDL cholesterol now seems to have gone crazy (which I get isn't necessarily a bad thing), but in this context, to me, it looks like my thyroid has stopped working (or is creating a lot of RT3). Is it just because it's winter? I have been CT'ing most days for around 20-30 mins. I have been trying to get as much AM sun as possible to help heal my hormones, but my DHEA has suddenly dropped in the last few months. Maybe due to inflammation? My ferritin levels and HS-CRP also point to inflammation.

    But the cholesterol and hormone results always seem to be worse when I'm eating very low carb (a la leptin reset).

    I have lost a little weight in the past few months doing the leptin reset (I weigh about 60kg, but still have a high body fat %), so perhaps some of that would increase the cholesterol?
    Am I doing the wrong thing with CT and eating with the leptin reset? Or should I just be supplementing more DHEA, T3 and progesterone until the levels are better and then my leptin resistance will improve? I just don't seem to need quite the amount of supplementation when not eating as low carb.

    I feel like in the first few weeks of the leptin reset + CT, I felt hot after most meals and was starting to feel really good. In the last few weeks, not so much, and my sleep has worsened a bit. I put it down to the time of the month, but given these last results I'm not surprised I'm not feeling great!

    Any thoughts?? Thanks in advance!!
  2. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    25:1 is a sure sign the redox is BAD. dehydration = mito make no water = no sun light can be added to your water to make a capacitor.

    Getting up early with the sun gives you time to reflect on your goals because your eyes can use UV-A and IR-A to make dopamine and melatonin. If you build in time to embrace your existence, your reason for being (ikigai) and your purpose, your brain will become addicted to your new morning habit. Think about what you want to achieve in life, what your purpose is and how you are going to reach those goals. This active awareness helps you become more proactive and less reactive for your future.
  3. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Thanks Jack, I appreciate your response. I'll try to get more AM sunlight, and hopefully with more dopamine I'll improve my situation.

    As an aside, I don't think my BUN: creatinine is always this bad, but I seem to take a really bad dive at the end (and beginning of my cycle), which I why I did the labs at Day 4 to confirm my suspicions. Clearly, I've still got pregnenolone steal going on pretty badly.

    I also plan on testing more for emf in the house, as I haven't been able to do that since we moved here. If it's bad, I think it's something in the house, as we are in a rural area with low population density, no close powerlines, and very few active wifi signals.

    Would increasing pg, t3 and DHEA be wise until my body can make better use of the AM sunlight?
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2017
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  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

  5. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    I couldn't read the full text of that article but I would gather that the amount of dopamine they release would be related to the environmental signal that the neuron is being exposed to?

    I'm trying to do better. I am being relentless about AM sun exposure and am hoping that with the longer light cycles of spring approaching, that I will see some improvements. My LDL cholesterol seems to be converted to Vitamin D not too badly (75nmol/L) after winter with no supplementation, just not to the steroid hormones. More AM light and more CT for me.
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  6. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

  7. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Thanks Jack
  8. howirecovered

    howirecovered New Member

    I have high ferretin like you and have been on a nutritional balancing program for about three years, mostly working on copper toxicity. At one point I consulted Morley Robbins who highlights the fact that high iron is very disruptive and highly correlated with disease. I wrote about it here: http://howirecovered.com/its-the-iron-stupid

    At first I thought that my iron was probably related to poor liver function and genetic flaws related to iron and copper transport. But I also have Lyme disease and co-infections and subsequently read that high ferretin can also be the bodies effort to sequester iron away from pathogens that feed on it. In other words, it can also be a sign of infection. Just something to think about, because you could search a long long time before you encountered an MD really good at detecting infections.

    I never once came across an MD with a microscope and yet it turns out Lyme is easily visible under my $600 microscope.
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  9. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Thanks @howirecovered , that's definitely given me some food for thought. Good doctors can be really hard to find!
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  10. Emma Ruttyn

    Emma Ruttyn New Member

    Hi Eliza,
    I'm just wondering if you have been happy with your Core Magnetico? And if so, did you purchase straight from the supplier in USA? I'm in Australia too and am thinking of purchasing one, but would love to know other aussies experiences.
  11. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Hi Emma

    Sorry for my late reply, I haven't been on the forum for a little while. I purchased 1 straight from the supplier, and the one on the other side of the bed (they come in halves) is an old one I bought second hand in Australia. The killer is the postage unfortunately! The second hand one I bought privately needs replacing through as all the magnets are becoming unglued and starting to move in different directions. I feel like that's a bad thing.

    It's really hard to say with the magnetico. I didn't experience anything strange when sleeping on it straight away like some others have. I don't think it's affected me negatively, but there are so many variables! I'm really glad to have bought it, as it's one piece to the puzzle, and it's not like EMF across the world is ever going to decrease.

    My health is starting to improve, but my hormones are still far from optimal. I think the magnetico is helping, but again, that's very hard to quantify.

    If you have the money, then I say go for it, it's an investment that should last a lifetime. But I think there are other more free, important things to be doing, like sunlight, reducing EMF exposure etc.

    Let me know how you go if you get one (or you might already have got one given how late my post is!)
  12. Sandra

    Sandra New Member

    Hi Emma, another late reply ... did you end up getting a Magnetico? There was one selling in Melbourne or nearby recently which may still be available. Cheaper and potentially easier than from the US. Please let me know if you need details.
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  13. Karen & Glen C.

    Karen & Glen C. New Member

    Hi there.
    The missus and I are wired for 06:30am.. personally I just wake up and boom.. straight for some good water (outside fridge) and grab a cloth which I soak and do the am sun with a cold water rub down..Kaz is similar and honestly it's amazing..cant believe how brown we are. Been blinking my eyes flat out also and finding a bunch of purple dots..Its completely addictive..!
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  14. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Working on this sentence:
    dehydration = mito make no water = no sun light can be added to your water to make a capacitor.
    That is the sentence that talks about stuff that happens deep within body
    that is
    it does not talk about direct sunlight hitting your eyes and skin
    there are two types of sunlight
    direct and indirect (indirect is created in mitochondrial matrix)
    top sentence talks about indirect sunlight
    bottom sentence talks about direct

    when mito makes water, it is synthesis of H+ and O2,
    that synthesis
    other than water produces sunlight

    why mito makes insufficient amount of water?
    one way to inhibit mito from producing water
    is to drink, too take too much water by mouth

    you may want to do all of the good things that you plan on doing
    and may want
    to drink less
    (do not stop drinking water all together)
    drink less
    To make water
    you must have
    good lungs to get you O2
    and fat
    from fat H+ is taken
    that fat is your body fat
    if you already have extra fat (you say you have), you will loose it
    if you are skinny, you must eat fat
    pigs fat and olive oil are your first choices, both are heavy in oleic acid
    then coconut oil, there must be other

    Your other goal is to minimize Deuterium intake.
    Fats are naturally low on deuterium.

    Carbohydrates are usually high on deuterium, but
    there are some that are low

    cacti (cactuses) are most deuterium depleted plants
    sugar made by aloe vera is low in deuterium
    material produced in green plants is low deuterium
    beans are high in sugar (and heavily deuterium depleted)
    All greens that are in plants are deuterium depleted. Even the sugar.
    Hydrogen at third and fifth and sixth carbon positions is heavily deuterium depleted.

    You have natural vit D=(75nmol/L) not bad
    Indicate decent sun exposure.
    But you may want to check your timing.
    Get 4xsaliva/cortisol check

    SHBG: 94nmol/L (20-118)
    SHBG: 130 nmol/L (20-155)
    good SHBG is about 20


    SHBG is raised when this protein is not controlled by light cycles. It is an important glycoprotein made primarily in the liver, which in addition to lowering insulin-resistance also serves in reducing levels of free Estrogen as-well as prolonging the half-life of Testosterone. It also causes problems in the kidney and intestine. This protein is also associated with MODY1 diabetes. I believe it is one of the key links to melanopsin dysfunction in the guts of many people.


    Get Fatty acids analysis
    Fatty Acid Profile, Comprehensive (C8-C26), Serum

    FT3: 4.2 pmol/L (3.5-6) - unfortunately I didn't get RT3 tested - but I supplement 10mg T3 daily
    You may want to switch to thyroid hormone from pigs

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    Last edited: Jan 28, 2019
  15. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  16. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Thanks @JanSz for your advice, you really are a fountain of knowledge when it comes to labs! Those labs are now a bit old, but I did some quite comprehensive ones from a few months ago - including ASI, thyroid function testing and dutch test. If you have any thoughts from these I'd love to hear them.

    I'm currently on a liquid B supplement (B1, B2, B3, B6, B7). It looks like I'm B12 deficient but I think that requires optimal methylation and that even if I supplemented it wouldn't necessarily get into my cells? Also taking 8 drops Lugol's/day, 5mg progesterone + 5mg DHEA, 10mcg T3, some selenium and 4% progesterone in 2nd half of cycle. I know all these supplements aren't optimal but my labs were worse without them.

    My Vitamin D is 71 nmol/L (and I look very tanned). My Urea is 3 mmol/L and my creatinine is 60 umol/L. If I calculated the BUN ratio right (I think it's different units in Australia) that puts me at 12.4, which is way better than ever before. I still feel dehydrated though, and get up during the night to go to the bathroom.

    I'm currently eating paleo with seafood + carbs (summer in Australia right now).

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  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    You are using 5mg DHEA,
    You could likely use 25 -50 mg/day DHEA

    you are using 10mcg T3,
    You could likely use/switch to 1-2 grains of NTH (chew before swallowing)
    NTH -- Natural Hormone from pigs.
    Amount that would result in FT3 --->> 6pmlo/L or even slightly more (check body temperature and how you feel)

  18. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Thanks Jansz, I might up the DHEA a bit! And switch to NTH. I used it many years ago but haven't for some time.
  19. Christina Gagnon

    Christina Gagnon New Member

    Have you been tested specifically for hemochromatosis? If you have it you really need phlebotomy treatment, especially because you are male the iron can build up more quickly in your organs.

  20. Eliza

    Eliza Gold

    Hi Christina, thanks for your thoughts. I haven't been tested specifically for haemochromatosis. When I had tests in the last few months my iron was at 20 umol/L (5-30) and my Ferritin was 131 ng/mL (130-200). I'd like my ferritin lower but is it high enough to be considered haemochromatosis within reference ranges- I think Jack would say my environment sucks more than anything. Also, I'm a female, but not losing an unusual amount of iron that way either :)
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