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Allergic to seafood or iodine? Don't believe it.

Discussion in 'The Epi-Paleo Diet' started by Jack Kruse, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    Seafood and iodine: an analysis of a medical myth.
    Authors
    Huang SW.
    Journal
    Allergy Asthma Proc. 2005 Nov-Dec;26(6):468-9.

    Affiliation
    Abstract

    There is a prevailing myth that iodine levels in seafood and seafood allergy are connected. Therefore, we designed a study to collect information about this misconception from patients referred to our pediatric allergy clinic because of suspected seafood allergy. We presented five questions to our patients, and the most surprising result was that the majority of them believe that iodine is linked to seafood allergy. As a result, many felt uneasy about the use of iodine radiocontrast media. A survey of iodine content in common foods showed that, although the iodine content of seafood is higher than nonseafood items, daily consumption of the latter is much greater and, therefore, any phobia about iodine in seafood is unfounded. We encourage strong public education about seafood allergy by allergy specialists.
     
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  2. Josh

    Josh Gold

    My understanding has been that people with AI thyroid issues and or other AI issues may see them exacerbated by iodine up-regulating metabolism. If the response is severe enough, it may trigger IgE acute reactions on top of the other inflammation. The iodine may exacerbate other immune/allergic responses in a similar manner upon concurrent consumption. Iodine may also trigger detoxification which in turn creates inflammation through a variety of pathways and so on. I imagine that without rigorous differential diagnosis and some testing, it is tough to figure it out.
     
  3. Josh

    Josh Gold

    Medicine is full of "Myths"....
     
  4. Jack Kruse

    Jack Kruse Administrator

    ^^^^This is Kresser's/Jaminet BS.
     
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  5. Josh

    Josh Gold

    Meaning that is what they are pitching or that is what they do not understand?
     
  6. Gracelind

    Gracelind New Member

    Someone close to me has reacted severely to oysters twice, once in California and the other time in Hawaii, and to home-cooked live lobster once.

    All three times the reaction started in the night a few hours after eating. The first two times brought severe nausea, vomiting and chest pain so severe and disabling that she called 911. She saying goodbye to her husband because she truly thought she might die. By the time the EMTs arrived at the hotel symptoms had eased enough that after having vitals taken she refused the ride to the ER. The third time she rode it out. After hours of suffering symptoms resolved.

    Each incident was several years apart, enough for memories of the time before to have dimmed. No one else who ate the oysters or lobster had any symptoms or distress at all.

    She's a Physician's Asst, works in the ER of a rather rough community so has seen a lot in seven years. But never a reaction like the three she has had. And she hasn't reacted to any other foods this way. It's doubly sad in the importance of oysters to optimal health and that she, quite simply, loves the taste. Never did figure out what it is that makes her so ill.
     
  7. Jude

    Jude Gold

    Know a number of folk, now, who've had bad reactions to iv iodine with serious side effects requiring hospitalisation.
    Just like to understand the process causing these reactions in folk.... if it isn't iodine induced.
    Best guess is that an individuals reaction reflects their lack of DHA, H2O and magnetism in given system?
     
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  8. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    These articles don't actually say that seafood allergy is impossible. They say that they are not related to iodine and that iodine is not an allergen. Just to be clear.
     
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  9. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    You don't have to be allergic to something for it to give you a bad reaction when injected into your bloodstream. There are many other possibilities...
     
  10. Jude

    Jude Gold

    Can you name a few possibilities? If any iv injectible is deemed safe for use, does that really mean it's only safe for folk who are optimal?
    Don't worry.....I get the other possibilities:rolleyes:
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2014
  11. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Everything in medicine is contextual.

    "Allergy" is a specific term that is often misused. It implies recognition of a specific substance by the immune system in a very specific targeted attack process.

    You can also react to something in the blood because it is a toxin that disrupts cells directly (like cyanide) or because it's given in too high a dose (potassium is deadly in high concentrations) or because it disrupts osmotic gradients. (Like sodium or albumin). Other substances may bind to vital molecules and prevent them from functioning (like carbon monoxide). None of these are allergic reactions... The bloodstream is carefully protected from the environment for a lot of reasons...
     
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  12. Josh

    Josh Gold

    As a child I was allergic to lobster and more mildy to molluscs and other crustaceans. I went into anaphylactic shock a couple of times and had a lot of epinephrine shots and the occasional steroid....I do not think I even thought about lobster for 37 years until I ate it by accident in a sauce with Jack in Orlando. I had no reaction. I eat all seafood without problems now. I have been able to get people out of strong reactions to a variety of things with acupuncture and or the right herbs and supplements. The whole topic looks much more nuanced than when I was a child in fear of not breathing and such. The immune system seems to respond well to the right dose of electrons and or alteration of flows...
     
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  13. Jude

    Jude Gold

    Certainly no doubt about folk having reactions:D
     
  14. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Personally, if I had a seafood allergy, my approach would be this... Figure out what kind of seafood I am NOT allergic to, first. Carefully. With the help of an allergist, if need be. And anyone with any true allergy should probably have an epi-pen, for emergencies.

    (I seriously doubt that anyone is allergic to ALL seafood, the immune system is more specific than that. Especially since iodine is not the allergen.)

    Then, I would load up on that seafood, like mad. And, in time I would expect my immune system to improve and expect to eventually be able to tolerate a wider range of seafood. What's so hard about that??

    Personally, my hands itch when I peel raw shrimp. But that doesn't stop me from eating a ton of it. (Or peeling it for that matter.)
     
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  15. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    The same for me with girls...

    Touching a sweet girl makes my hands itch, peeling of their clothes. But that would not stop me even if the world ends at the same time.
     
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  16. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

    Hahahaha... I so need to go hang out with you!
     
  17. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    Us Swedes did not invent the word sin for nothing, we did it from the ages of vikings, not just on the subject of girls...
     
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  18. NeilBB

    NeilBB New Member

     
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  19. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    For sure we have some shitty foods but... Just watch the combo, foods, humans and living. Makes me itch.

     
  20. prAna303

    prAna303 New Member

    Funny, had that one on my turntable yesterday. Found a nice rare press just a couple of days ago, cost me a bit but the travel i do, worth it.
     
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