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Aging is Not a Disease, Damn It!

Discussion in 'The Cave' started by Dennis Clark, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    So, (intermediate summary)
    50 years ago, I started with GERD, 10 -15 years later added to it muscle cramps in legs,
    now I see that eating (potassium bicarbonate) is helping me with both (GERD and muscle cramps)
    Potassium bicarbonate raises stomach acid level, (lowers ph).
    Additionally (potassium RBC) test indicates very low, near lower laboratory range potassium level.
    While (potassium serum) from (Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP 14)) always looks normal.
    I must be losing potassium a great deal. I eat (potassium bicarbonate) 2x/day. Morning and evening.
    I think that way because, if I miss the evening dose or even if I take it right before going to bed, most likely I will have to deal with cramps that night.
    I need to take an evening dose of potassium, couple or few hours before going to bed.
    I do not eat licorice.
    Why am I potassium deficient for the last 50years?
    GERD is a very common problem. Whole industries have been build around this problem.
    How do we get to the bottom of this problem?

    In the meantime, it looks like it may be helpful to check my aldosterone status.
    Which one from the tests below should I use.
    I need to use Quest Diagnostic, it is local to me.
    To use LabCorp would have to travel to Pennsylvania.

    Aldosterone Blood Test, LC-MS
    Aldosterone:Renin Ratio Blood Test

    Aldosterone Urine Test, 24-Hour


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  2. 8Phoenix

    8Phoenix New Member

    1.- How Long you been Drinking this water

    2.- What your First Observation when you first stared to use it

    3.- I wonder is you have a Observation Period prior to
    Drinking it or If you write a Observation Log

    In the past I did purchase
    The ddw hydrohealth 50 ppm
    I did let the water sit at home
    For 3 weeks and look all botles
    Just doing general Observation
    Then I drink like a 1/4 cup with liter of spring water every 3
    3 days and drinking it during the day

    The first bottles where okay
    I left 1 bottle behind and took a trip for 2 weeks when I came back
    The botle that I left behind
    Did change their shave
    Meaning that it look like compress bottle
    I did discard this bottle
    And stop buying it

    do write Observation Log

    OTE"JanSz, post: 303567, member: 933"]Getting a little low on my DDW stash.

    View attachment 19308

    25 HydroHealth (24pcs x 500ml Box) now only $175 including S&H.

    50 ppm Hydro-Health (500 ML x 24 pcs Box ) IS NOW ONLY $125,INCLUDING S&H ( $ 5.30 per bottle)

    to get DDW-50 out of one bottle of DDW-25 add 1/4 bottle of tap water

    So, if one wants to use DDW50 there are two choices.
    Buy directly DDW50 for $5.21per bottle
    buy DDW25 add 1/4 bottle of tap water to it and that will cost you $5.833 per bottle on average.

    DDW50 is an excellent choice for an average user (health and money vise).

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  3. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    12/11/17/Mon Started drinking DDW
    My biggest breakthrough at the time was the reduced number of nightly trips to the bathroom.
    It first appeared on New Year.
    At the time it was my major nuisance (after my prostate surgery a few years before.
    Over the time I was purchasing
    HydroHealth DDW25

    I have not purchased DDW50 from HydroHealth
    I did numerous testing of my breath and saliva.
    Those tests indicate lowering of deuterium contents as reasonably expected. (those waters actually change the deuterium content of their users).
    the difference (the delta) of deuterium content between breath and saliva, after a certain point in time,
    reaches some constant value (even when overall deuterium content goes down).
    Unfortunately, the delta is constantly too low per my expectations.
    Which I interpret as DDW not helping me (increasingly more) after I reached that difference).
    In my estimate, If one would start drinking (only) DDW25, that point could be reached within about 3-4 months.
    After that, (healthy person) could likely go to drinking (one DDW-25 and 3 parts of another liquid), and gain most of the benefits that deuterium restriction may provide.

    Newer the less, I keep drinking DDW25. (I am 81+ now, that is my reason)
    But now have fewer(mental) problems with straying, and drinking some other liquid.

    Per some previous discussion, mostly on the cost of DDW, It appears that it should be reasonable for the average person (not sick), to drink a liquid that would contain one bottle of DDW-25 and three bottles of other liquid.


    One more.
    In the last few months, I am going thru what I can only describe as an earthquake-like situation.
    It is thanks to @DrEttinger
    It is about potassium.
    It is about LACK of potassium.

    Right now I am just eating 2 sometimes three teaspoons of potassium bicarbonate.

    That allows me to escape
    heartburns, GERD,
    terrible and persistent muscle cramps
    allows me to sleep on the flatbed again (after about 40 years on an inclined hospital bed,
    and not waking up with my feet on the floor.
    My brother-in-law died of GERD.

    Please understand that eating potassium bicarbonate is hopefully short time solution.
    What we need is a MAJOR change in diet advice.
    I hope that
    @Jack Kruse
    will edit or highlight potassium in his famous Epi-Paleo diet in a way that will lead to sufficient potassium levels in people who follow it.
    GERD in a national or international menace.
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2021
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  4. Freebird

    Freebird New Member

    This is fascinating that Potassium bicarbonate RAISES stomach acid level.

    How long before and after eating food do you eat the Potassium bicarbonate?
  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    I have one dose in the morning the other in the evening.
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  6. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Webinar : Reversing Physical Aging with Dr Thierry Hertoghe
    Jan 26, 2018
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    JanSz Gold

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    JanSz Gold

  9. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    Potassium and Atrial Fibrillation:
    What Every Afibber Needs to Know
    More than 98% of Americans are potassium deficient.

    The recommended dose for adults and teens is 4,700/mg of potassium per day but healthy adults with normal kidney function can probably consume much more.

    By contrast, the diet of our ancestors consisted almost exclusively of fruits and vegetables so they got ample amounts of potassium; some say as much as 10,000mg per day!
    Magnesium and Atrial Fibrillation

    There are two magnesium supplements I recommend. Start with Doctor’s Best High Absorption Magnesium. It has 100mg of elemental magnesium (magnesium glycinate) per tablet.

    If that supplement gives you digestive issues or loose stools and diarrhea (common side effects when taking high levels of oral magnesium), then I recommend a liquid magnesium supplement called ReMag. This is the oral supplement I take exclusively because I can take as much as I want and I have zero digestive or stool problems.


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  10. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    I cannot take remag......loose stools
  11. Anne V

    Anne V Silver

    what about magnesium oil?, bonjour Audrey , a big hug.
  12. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    What kind of magnesium supplementation works for you, Audrey? @caroline
    What problem are you getting into when you are low on magnesium?
    Is it possibly about dose size and the number of doses daily?
    In my experimentation, as of now,
    potassium bicarbonate solved my GERD, no reflux, and able to sleep on the flat bed (that is a huge one for me)
    My nightly muscle cramps are still a work in progress.
    So far, the best results I am getting when I use magnesium as initially recommended by @DrEttinger
    problem is, that causes diarrhea.

    Work in progress.

    I see two sizes of REMAG, same content, either 8 or 16 oz.
    Active ingredient Magnesium Chloride.
    They are giving you a choice to put (1/2 teaspoon) into 1 liter of water,
    do it (drink 1liter of water) 3 times daily
    so 3 liters of water a day.
    That does not look practical to me.

    ReMag Pico-Ionic Liquid Magnesium by RnA ReSet.

    The REMAG may be the same or highly similar to what BodyBio is selling.

    Brand BodyBio
    Ingredients Purified water, Magnesium Chloride, and Potassium Iodide as a preservative.


    1 teaspoon US (tsp , teasp) = 98.58 drops of water (gtt Metric)

    Assume 1tsp=100 drops
    BodyBio magnessium chloride, 4oz-120mL---18 $USA,---4*18=72 US$
    10 drops=25mg

    REMAG 1/2tsp--50 drops--150mg---16oz---55 $USA (but must add $6.45 fordelivery, while BodyBio have free delivery)
    so, 30mg per 10 drops, ie. about the same per volume as BodyBio

    Same amount of REMAG (16oz) cost ($55+6.45)=$61.45 when BodyBio cost is $72)

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  13. caroline

    caroline Moderator

    yes Anne - I use that and We take magnesium threonate xo
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  14. JanSz

    JanSz Gold




    View attachment 19443

    8 liters of 10ppm DDW cost $200 (shipping??)

    take one liter of 10ppm
    add 8 liters of 150ppmwater
    you get 9liters of 25.5ppm, equal to16 half liter bottles for $200

    200/18=$11.11 for half-liter bottle (25.5ppm)Litewater

    Hydro-Health 1/2 liter (25ppm) bottle cost $7.5

    200/(56*2)=$1.78 for half-liter bottle (25.5ppm)Litewater


    25 HydroHealth (24pcs x 500ml Box) $180 including S&H. (no P.O. box deliveries)
    Regular price
    Sale price
    $180.00 Sale

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  17. @Jack Kruse in his latest post -

    We have known for years the neuroprotective effects of plant derived phytochemicals.

    For example: Neuroprotective Effects of Coffee Bioactive Compounds -

    Caffeine from coffee metabolites (both theophylline and paraxanthine) significantly attenuated the MPTP-induced dopamine depletion providing neuroprotective effects in this model of Parkinson’s disease.

    Oh, does that mean too much dopamine can be a problem?

    Kahweol and cafestol are two coffee-specific diterpenes present in unfiltered coffees such as Scandinavian-style boiled coffee, Turkish-style coffee, French press coffee, and espresso. Although these two compounds are known mainly from their hypercholesterolemic effects, a growing body of evidence shows that kahweol and cafestol also have many beneficial effects such as anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, hepatoprotective, anti-diabetic, and anti-carcinogenic activities.
    There is a protective effect of kahweol against the 6-OHDA-induced oxidative stress in the dopaminergic SH-SY5Y neuronal cells indicating its possible neuroprotective effects in Parkinson’s disease.​

    My interests have been looking at phytochemicals from a peptide neuroprotective perspective.

    Potential of plant-derived peptides for the improvement of memory and cognitive function
    The peptides listed in the parenthesis are shown as specific possible peptides. NMDA, N-methyl-D-aspartic acid; CaMKII, Ca2+/ calmodulin-dependent protein kinase II; CREB, cAMP-response-element binding protein; BDNF, brain-derived neurotrophic factor; TrkB, tropomyosin receptor kinase B; PI3K, phosphatidylinositol-3 kinase; mTOR, mammalian target of rapamycin; NRF2, nuclear factorerythroid 2-related factor-2; KEAP1, Kelch-like ECH-associated protein 1; HO-1, heme oxygenase-1; NF-kB, nuclear factor-kappa B.


    Cholinergic hypothesis of plant-derived neuroprotective peptides. The peptide listed in the parenthesis is shown as a specific possible peptide. ChAT, choline acetyltransferase; ACh, acetylcholine; AChE, acetylcholinesterase.

    There have been multiple studies on plant-derived peptides for neuroprotective potential outcomes.

    However, I believe that DHEA marine derived peptides are superior.
    Marine organisms are highly rich in carbohydrates, especially in the form of sulfated and non-sulfated polysaccharides.

    Chitin is described as a family of polysaccharides composed of linear β-(1,4)-2-acetamido-2-deoxy-D-glucose or N-acetylglucosamine. Chitin, the second most abundant natural polymer of the ecosystem after cellulose, represents the main component of the exoskeleton of marine arthropods and crustaceans, especially shrimps, crabs, lobsters, krill, oysters, prawns, and squid.

    Marine Peptides – https://www.mdpi.com/1660-3397/13/7/4006/pdf

    The neuroprotective peptide (HTP-1) Gly-Thr-Glu-Asp-Glu-Leu-Asp-Lys from the seahorse Hippocampus trimaculatus exerted a protective action on PC12 cells and prevented them from the deleterious action of amyloid β42 which is associated with the pathogenesis of Alzheimer’s disease, as evidenced by the enhancement of cell viability and expression of the pro-survival gene (Bcl-2).

    Neuroprotective DHEA marine derived peptides are a rich solar source for nourishing our cells with the full spectrum synthesis of our sun.

    Bottomline: Eat more oysters
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  18. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    Thank you
    1.vitacost-magtein-magnesium-l-threonate is not available at the moment
    2. I still have Life Extension Neuro-Mag Magnesium L-Threonate, (also from magtein) should I give it another try? (less frequent, smaller dose).

    3. My main question
    a. should I worry primarily about muscle cramps
    b. my main worry should be lack of magnesium as shown on Spectracell test? , and how to bring it up?


  19. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

  20. As you know from @DrEttinger potassium & magnesium are your friends for electrolyte balance.

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