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Aging is Not a Disease, Damn It!

Discussion in 'The Cave' started by Dennis Clark, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. http://www.1vigor.com/article/ejaculation-frequency/

    The most respected of the Tao theorist, Sun Simiao, quoted above, recommends ejaculation no more than once every 20 days for men over 50 and no more than once every 100 days for men over 60.

    Or ->

    Age X 0.2 = frequency of ejaculation in days

    Ejaculation control and discipline is not to be confused with frequency of sex. There are significant physiologic. phsycologic and therapeutic benefits to having sex. Frequent sex intercourse maintains a man's interest in the act as well as his capacity to continue indefinitely until his partner is fully satisfied.

    However for women - https://www.lelo.com/blog/orgasms-101-understanding-climax/


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  2. JanSz

    JanSz Gold


    Super thank you very much.
    It seems to me that I should spend more time enjoying what I got.

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  3. I do love life - every bit of it !

    AND -> I'm enjoying it more with this correspondence with you.

    Your care you give to this community out weighs the value of the price you pay to be part of it.
  4. Have you looked into "Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex, and Death in a World That's Lost Its Mind" by https://www.amazon.com/Jamie-Wheal/e/B06WVB6PG2/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1

    When you read about these experiences people have during sex & immediately after, we need to realize these are "healthy" young people. However, is there something we can gleam and GET SOME too...

    "Orgasm is a brain shifting state, cognitive change, a cascade of neurochemistry, including prolactin, vasopressin, serotonin, oxytocin, dopamine, and anandamide kind of like all the big swingers for peak state experiences all arise during sex, coitus, and orgasm."

    "When you learn to play that system like a loving and compassionate instrument, you can basically load up a bunch of neurological stimulation. Release it and timed with the breath work, with the gas assistance, static apnea, with oxytocin and ketamine, with driving sonic music, with strong base and hopefully profound lyrics and a kick ass beat."

    "Breath work like 50 hyperventilation to decrease CO2, two inhalations of pure oxygen to super saturate your red blood cells, and one shot of blended 70, 30 nitric oxide oxygen, and then maximum static apnea. And at that point, your partner can then edge you over the top into climax."​

    May your Guardian Angle guide you...
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  5. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    ph (urine, blood, both esophageal sphincters)

    @John Schumacher
    Please help to investigate
    Looks like there is a rabbit hole that may tie up a number of events in my life.
    Age 28-30 (1970) start of GERD (my current guess, my (potassium RBC) must have been hitting an important low
    Age 40 (1980), got a new house and double beds (adjustable). Sleep on an incline, bad sleeping but less GERD, less anti-GERD chemicals
    Age 50 (1990), starting hitting a wall, not being able to hold urine for 6-7 hrs (job requirement)(prostate growth must have reached an important set point
    Age 55 (1995), started having erection problems
    Age 57 (1997) quit working, found very low testosterone, good E2, (LH did not give a shit about my low testosterone), my pituitary abandoned me)
    Age 60 (2000) Poliquin's explanation convinced me to eat Betaine HCL. Miracle work (but based on mistaken assumption as I have recendly found based on @DrEttinger support
    Age 81+ (2021 today)(August 16, 2021)
    I am sleeping again on a flat bed.

    I am thinking that my destroyed testicles and prostate BPH (and surgery for it), possibly even my very few orgasms (while yearning (and getting) as much sex as I want)
    could have been avoided
    Had I been aware of low potassium.

    To make things more difficult to figure, my potassium on Metabolic Panel (14) was always in mid-range.
    But (potassium RBC) right on the lower laboratory range point.

    So, I am thinking that at least since I was 30 yo my potassium must have been low and destroying systems of my body.

    I would think that looking at the body from point of view of microelements levels
    and their combinations,
    them resulting in a variety of acidities (ph)
    at different places and at a variety of timing
    could be helpful.


    Interesting study on potassium and testosterone production.
    After tracking my micronutrients, minerals, etc I noticed that my potassium is barely hitting the minimum RDA and my potassium/sodium ratio is not the greatest. I know the body is very good at regulating these, but I figured I would up my potassium via whole food sources and document any changes. I would imagine any noticeable change to occur over a few months. After poking around the internet I found this study. Below is the abstract. I've been dealing with something since December of 2010. It caused all of my hormones to drop to low normal. My platelet count also dropped below the low range. Been seeing specialists at the Mayo Clininc and they suspect some sort of viral infection. Second round of blood tests suggests my body is returning to homeostasis. FSH rose from 4.0 to 5.5, LH rose from 1.9 to 2.2, Free T from 81 to 101. These increases came with subpar potassium intake. With my changes I have increased my potassium two fold and my potassium/sodium ratio is 5:1.

    Potassium deficiency produced by feeding mice a low potassium diet caused a marked decrease in plasma and testicular testosterone concentrations and a concomitant fall in the weight of seminal vesicles and in renal ornithine decarboxylase activity. All of these parameters were rapidly restored when potassium supply was normalized. Immunocytochemical analysis of gonadotropes and plasma LH values suggested that the pulsatile liberation of LH by the pituitary was impaired in the potassium-deficient male mice. Because the synthesis of testosterone in the potassium-deficient mice was stimulated by exogenous LH, hCG, or GnRH, one can conclude that alteration of the transcellular potassium gradient could affect the regulation of the hypothalamo-hypophyseal-testicular axis by affecting the pulsatile release of GnRH. Our results showing that the stimulation of LH secretion after castration was similar in control and potassium-deficient male mice suggest that a testicular factor(s) different from testosterone could be implicated in the abnormal regulation of LH secretion in potassium-deficient mice. We conclude that plasma potassium concentration is an important factor in the regulation of gonadotropin secretion and testicular functions.
    Hypokalemia decreases testosterone production in male mice by altering luteinizing hormone secretion.
    S�nchez-Capelo A, Castells MT, Cremades A, Pe�afiel R.
    SourceDepartment of Pharmacology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Murica, Spain.

    Hypokalemia decreases testosterone production in male mice by altering luteinizing hormone secretion

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  6. @JanSz - Just to let you know -> I'm thinking about this. As you know any "name the degenerative" process, there never seems to be an "easy" answer. Most degenerative processes have "milestones" of bigger bad things that happen along the way -> loss of testosterone ED, severe muscle cramps, Peripheral vascular disease in the legs, etc.
    We know the stressors of life can inflict too much damage overtime. An accumulation weakens rather than strengthens the "system" causing brain neuron injury. https://burnstrauma.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s41038-019-0158-z. This may not manifest as cognitive impairment (yet), but a dysfunction of the hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal (HPA) axis <- This being a major reason for the drop in testosterone.

    When DHEA is used up from this accumulated stress ->
    • The resulting increase in circulating levels of cortisol and a reduction in dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) has been shown to affect several biological responses, such as the inhibition of neutrophil function.
    • DHEA supposed to normalised splenocyte apoptosis and lymphocyte migration in haemorrhagic shock.
    • DHEAS supposed to stimulate the action of NADPH oxidase and reactive oxygen species production and thus improve neutrophil function.
    • DHEA supposed to promote neurogenesis in the hippocampus and survival of newly formed neurons.
    • DHEA supposed to be stimulate neural stem cells, increased nerve growth factor (NGF) and brain-derived neurotrophic factor, potentially conferring neurogenic, neuronal survive advantages.
    We know that elevated cortisol creates a Glucocorticoid negative feedback which creates a trade-off between reproduction (sex) and survival - https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.ygcen.2019.113301

    Is there a "quantum" intervention for higher Glucocorticoid than we should have? -> Leptin sensitivity
    Leptin secretion inhibits the adrenal gland from releasing glucocriocoid. Thus Leptin can inhibit the activation of the over reaction of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis -> calming things down.

    So from a "quantum perspective", how do you turn on leptin secretion? -> https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?posts/292585 -> cold and fasting

    An option for cold therapy is a tub. Dissolve Epson Salts in enough warm water for it to dissolve, sit in the tub, then turn off the warm and turn on the cold. It will not be comfortable. Allow the water to rise. Breathe a deep full inhale, feel the chill come up your back, allow it to go up the back of your neck, feel it move into your head then exhale gently (not completely), then breathe deeply again, mentally move the chill up your spine into your head, then exhale gently. It's OK to feel cold. Our goal is for the water to cover your chest. If you can, allow it to cover the back of your neck. Pick up a good book and read for 20 minutes. Then let the water out, feel the cool water pull away from you body as it drains out - breathe. Rap yourself in warm towels, if you begin to shiver, you have reached nirvana for cold therapy. It is during the shiver that your heart rate variability will become "coherent" and your body will heal. https://www.heartmath.com/

    Quantum Bottomline -> It is when our heart is in coherence is when our body can begin to heal itself.

    Go Dr. @Jack Kruse !

    Dr. @Jack Kruse wrote - "DHEA is linked to solar exposure by way of luteinizing Hormone in both sexes. DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone) is a steroid hormone produced by the adrenal glands. It’s a precursor to both testosterone and estrogen in the body, although it may play other physiological roles as well. In my hands, I used DHEA level as a proxy for a person’s environment and how it affects their redox potential.
    In 2012, even modern healthcare is beginning to realize that chronic inflammation is linked to just about every neolithic and aging disease known to mankind. Both of these disease processes have rising inflammatory cytokines as the main causes of their progression. These chemicals are destructive to cell membrane signaling, cellular nuclear processing signaling, and cytosolic signaling. They have particularly devastating effects on the steroid hormone receptors and the receptors of both arms of the immune system. These errors in signaling lead to disease progression. Some examples of these cytokines are TNF-alpha, IL-6, IL1b, and LTB4 on the inflammatory cascade. We have known from Cutolo’s 2000 study that most adrenal hormones (like DHEA) are very low prior to the development of the full-blown disease. This is true in all autoimmune diseases, especially rheumatoid arthritis and viral illness associated with cytotoxic storms.
    DHEA has been shown to prevent chronic inflammation and it slows the aberrant signaling that is commonly found in the immune system when it is turned on by any pathogen, self or foreign. DHEA is particularly helpful in limiting IL-6 and TNF alpha in both disease propagation and in normal human aging.
    DHEA has been shown to have dramatic effects on those infected with a serious viral illness like HIV and Hepatitis C. Part of the reason for this effect is because, in both of these diseases, we see a loss of Type 1 cytokines from cell-mediated immunity (gamma Interferon and IL-2) and an excess of Type 2 cytokines like IL-6. This steep rise in Il-6 is fought back by the available DHEA until its production falls and causes dramatic rises in cortisol. The drugs used to treat both conditions are called protease inhibitors and when they are used in either disease, DHEA levels dramatically rise to help stimulate the immune system. Many physicians are completely unaware of the effects of the hormone on immunity."
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  7. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    @John Schumacher
    Please see my (10 years old) question at the bottom of this picture.
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    JanSz Gold

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    The surge in levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines and chemokines augments infiltration of neutrophils, macrophages, monocytes and T-cells to the site of infection, bringing about an intense and violent inflammatory response in the bronchi and alveoli. This leads to disruption of air-blood barrier, endothelial and epithelial cell damage, breakdown of the alveolar-epithelial barrier, diffuse alveolar damage leading to ARDS and pulmonary fibrosis (PF). In addition to the local damage at the site of infection, the cytokine storm also has ripple effects across the body; contributing to viral sepsis, MOF and finally death in critically-ill patients.

    COVID is killing people with low redox. The cytokine storm COVID produces can now be classified as hypercytokinemia, which is a state of hyperinflammation are persistent lymphopenia, neutrophilia, over-activation of complement components C3, C3a, C5, C5a and mannose binding lectin-associated serine protease (MASP2).

    These patients exhibit very high levels of pro-inflammatory/modulatory cytokines and chemokines like TNFα, INFγ, IL-1β, IL-2, IL-4, IL-6, IL-7, IL-9, IL-10, IL-12, IL-13, IL-17, G-CSF, GM-CSF, MCSF, HGF and chemokines CXCL8, MCP1, IP10, MIP1α and MIP1β.

    Even though I am an avid believer in the quantum protocol and the thermodynamic effects of botanical intervention
    I do not believe these are therapeutic enough to take a person, (who is unable to take in anymore oxygen from a respirator), to remediation.

    If you know someone who's hit hard with COVID ->
    a DNR cytokine storm of IL-6,​
    you may want to recommend a mass cell treatment CytoDyn
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  11. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    John Schumacher said:
    I do not believe these are therapeutic enough to take a person, (who is unable to take in anymore oxygen from a respirator), to remediation.
    I was under impression that @DrEttinger has not suggested licorice for a patient in ICU.
    But rather as something that could be added to the list of preventative items (that would prevent (often one way) trip to ICU).
    Such as this:


    Above list contains too small amounts of vit D3, I suggest 10000 -15000iu/day (plus max sunlight and SPERTI).

    Have my doubts also about ZINC. (For years) I test zinc with Spectracell Micronutrient analysis and ended up using four 50mg pills =200mg/day

    Now Foods Zinc Gluconate 50 Milligram

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  12. Thank you - I so agree - prevention, preparation & a good redox. I've seen studies show that its hard to get to toxic levels for the list above.

    My concern is that someone may believe these "natural" interventions could be used for treatment during severe urgent care.
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  13. DrEttinger

    DrEttinger Choice, the only thing we control

    First, no outside products are allowed into 99% of ICU's. By the time a person is admitted into the ICU, they have already shown they are not taking care of themselves - in 99% of cases. My list of products: zinc, vitamin D from the sun, quercetin, and vitamin C can all be gotten from food-based sources and living a natural lifestyle. NAC and colostrum are my only other recommendations that need to be taken supplemental. Add in exercise, sleep, love, gratitude and it's hard for COVID to get a foothold. I'd say 1/2 to 2/3 of American's don't live a life that would be similar to how they did 80-100 years ago. That alone allows COVID to take hold and set up shop, sending some to the ICU.
  14. Freebird

    Freebird New Member

    I've always liked licorice. But... question: does Glycyrrhizic acid tend to raise blood pressure?
  15. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Need to investigate.
    I am eating 2 teaspoons of potassium bicarbonate/day, practically (so not always) my leg cramps are gone and am able to sleep on a flatbed (no GERD). Do not use (Betaine HCL with pepsin anymore). Of the 2 teaspoons of potassium bicarbonate I eat one in the morning the other around 6PM. If I forget to take the evening dose, or even if I take it right before bedtime, the chances of crams are increased. I must be going thru potassium big time.
    Seriously thinking of a change to 3 tsp/day.
    A couple of minutes after each dose I belch few times (so likely there is HCL in my stomach)
    Baja Gold Sea salt, 1/2 teaspoon or slightly more, once a day, in the morning.
    I had to stop taking magnesium, loose watery stools, often way on the road I may get an urge.
    That is interesting,
    please study my magnesium, zinc, and calcium in the attached picture.

    First I was taking two 50mg pills (NowFoods Zinc), that tested low, increased to 4*50=200mg/day still low. After my last test, increased to 6*50=300mg/day

    Tests indicate that my magnesium is getting lower and lower, but when I take magnesium pills, diarrhea ensues.

    Must regroup, but how?
    Pantothenate is low
    my head itches, must scratch it.
    How to raise (B5) Pantothenate.
    Inhibitory effects of zinc on magnesium balance and magnesium absorption in man

    Spectracell test results.
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  16. I really like seeing your carbohydrate metabolism has improve.

    I'm taking 3 capsules of magnesium threonate in the mornings -> https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-magtein-magnesium-l-threonate
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  17. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    carbohydrate metabolism

    For a rather long time, I had low chromium and was not able to raise it with the variety of supplements I eat at the time.
    BodyBio chromium drops started to make a difference.
    Now I take 60 drops.
    Note that on the bottle they recommend starting with 5 drops/day.
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  18. Dan2

    Dan2 New Member

    "I've always liked licorice. But... question: does Glycyrrhizic acid tend to raise blood pressure?"

    Licorice root monograph from Herbal Medicine: Expanded [German] Commission E Monographs.


    and @JanSz

    "Reports in the literature of adverse effects of the consumption of excessive amounts of licorice (more than 20 g per day) have raised concerns about the potential for glycyrrhizin in licorice to produce pseudoaldesteronism (excessive levels of aldesterone, a hormone produced by the adrenalcortex) and resulting risks (headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention, hypertension, potassium loss that upsets the sodium-potassium balance, possibly resulting in cardiac problems, including cardiac arrest). The therapeutic uses and risks of licorice has been reviewed by Chandler (1997) and Stormer et al. (1993).

    A deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) preparation has been developed to provide some of the therapeutic benefits of licorice while reducing risk...

    On prolonged use and with higher doses, sodium and water retention and potassium loss may occur, accompanied by hypertension, edema, hypokalemia, and, in rare cases, myoglobinuria.

    [Ed. Note: Within several weeks of discontinuing use, any symptoms of hyperaldosteronism disappear (Mantero, 1981).]...

    Pharmacopeial grade licorice root must contain not less than 4% glycyrrhizic acid, calculated on the dried root, and must pass a thin-layer chromatography (TLC) assay to show the presence of glycyrrhetic acid...

    Dosage and Administration

    Unless otherwise prescribed: About 5-15 g per day of cut or powdered root, or dry extracts equivalent to 200-600 mg of glycyrrhizin.

    DGL [deglycyrrhizinated licorice] tablets (380 mg DGL 4:1): acute cases (gastric or duodenal ulcers): chew 2-4 tablets before each meal; chronic cases: chew 1-2 tablets before meals (Murray and Pizzorno, 1998).

    Duration of administration:
    Not longer than four to six weeks without medical advice. There is no objection to using licorice root as a flavoring agent up to a maximum daily dosage equivalent to 100 mg glycyrrhizin.

    Cholestatic liver disorders, liver cirrhosis, hypertonia, hypokalemia, severe kidney insufficiency

    Interactions with Other Drugs
    Potassium loss due to other drugs, e.g., thiazide diuretics, can be increased. With potassium loss, sensitivity to digitalis glycosides increases."


    "'While The Complete German Commission E Monographs covered the array of medicinal plants sold as medicines in Germany with brief summaries and recommendations on each, the new [book, "Herbal Medicine -- Expanded Commission E Monographs",] offers greater depth of information,' said Mark Blumenthal, founder and executive director of ABC and senior editor of both books. 'This is a much more extensive resource, providing information about clinical studies, herb safety, side effects, interactions, types of preparations, and more.'"
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  19. JanSz

    JanSz Gold

    Getting a little low on my DDW stash.


    25 HydroHealth (24pcs x 500ml Box) now only $175 including S&H.

    50 ppm Hydro-Health (500 ML x 24 pcs Box ) IS NOW ONLY $125,INCLUDING S&H ( $ 5.30 per bottle)

    to get DDW-50 out of one bottle of DDW-25 add 1/4 bottle of tap water

    So, if one wants to use DDW50 there are two choices.
    Buy directly DDW50 for $5.21per bottle
    buy DDW25 add 1/4 bottle of tap water to it and that will cost you $5.833 per bottle on average.

    DDW50 is an excellent choice for an average user (health and money vise).

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  20. Freebird

    Freebird New Member

    Wow, great research. Thanks Dan2.
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